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[Sip-implementors] : No To-Tag in INVITE why?
Arun Tagare
2014-08-05 06:14:46 UTC
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Hi All,

Can any one explain me
Why there is no To-Tag in the INVITE Request?

And what happens if i add To-Tag in the INVITE Request?

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With Regards

Arun A. Tagare
+91 9449 029729
Amit Kumar Singh
2014-08-05 06:55:02 UTC
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Hi,

Section 19.3 of RFC 3261 states the following:

" The tag parameter is used in the To and From header fields of SIP messages. It serves as a general mechanism to identify a dialog, which is the combination of the Call-ID along with two tags, one from each participant in the dialog. When a UA sends a request outside of a dialog, it contains a From tag only, providing "half" of the dialog ID. The dialog is completed from the response(s), each of which contributes the second half in the To header field. The forking of SIP requests means that multiple dialogs can be established from a single request. This also explains the need for the two-sided dialog identifier; without a contribution from the recipients, the originator could not disambiguate the multiple dialogs established from a single request."

As the RFC clearly states that the dialog is completed from the responses thus it should be the UAS to generate the To Tag in the response not the UAC. In the case of Forking of single SIP request, to avoid the ambiguity in multiple dialogs contribution from the recipients (UAS), in our case To Tag, is necessary.

Regards,
Amit Kumar Singh
amit2.singh at aricent.com



-----Original Message-----
From: sip-implementors-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:sip-implementors-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Arun Tagare
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:45 AM
To: sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: [Sip-implementors] : No To-Tag in INVITE why?

Hi All,

Can any one explain me
Why there is no To-Tag in the INVITE Request?

And what happens if i add To-Tag in the INVITE Request?

--

With Regards

Arun A. Tagare
+91 9449 029729
Arun Tagare
2014-08-05 07:43:59 UTC
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Hi Amit,

Thank you for your Response
Thanks for explaining the dot i was having with respect to the To-Tag in
the INVITE request.

Thank you,
With Regards
Arun A. Tagare


On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Amit Kumar Singh <Amit2.Singh at aricent.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Section 19.3 of RFC 3261 states the following:
>
> " The tag parameter is used in the To and From header fields of SIP
> messages. It serves as a general mechanism to identify a dialog, which is
> the combination of the Call-ID along with two tags, one from each
> participant in the dialog. When a UA sends a request outside of a dialog,
> it contains a From tag only, providing "half" of the dialog ID. The dialog
> is completed from the response(s), each of which contributes the second
> half in the To header field. The forking of SIP requests means that
> multiple dialogs can be established from a single request. This also
> explains the need for the two-sided dialog identifier; without a
> contribution from the recipients, the originator could not disambiguate the
> multiple dialogs established from a single request."
>
> As the RFC clearly states that the dialog is completed from the responses
> thus it should be the UAS to generate the To Tag in the response not the
> UAC. In the case of Forking of single SIP request, to avoid the ambiguity
> in multiple dialogs contribution from the recipients (UAS), in our case To
> Tag, is necessary.
>
> Regards,
> Amit Kumar Singh
> amit2.singh at aricent.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sip-implementors-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:
> sip-implementors-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Arun Tagare
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:45 AM
> To: sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: [Sip-implementors] : No To-Tag in INVITE why?
>
> Hi All,
>
> Can any one explain me
> Why there is no To-Tag in the INVITE Request?
>
> And what happens if i add To-Tag in the INVITE Request?
>
> --
>
> With Regards
>
> Arun A. Tagare
> +91 9449 029729
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With Regards

Arun A. Tagare
+91 9449 029729
pradeep kumar
2014-08-08 17:27:06 UTC
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Hi Arun,



If you add To-Tag in INVITE, then It will be a re-invite. If the dialog is already established then UAC can send invite with to-tag.

UAS will generate to tag while sending response(18x/2xx) for INVITE.



1. No to-Tag in INVITE WHY?



Here your question is like. Why there is no to-tag in Initial INVITE request?



The answer will be, UAC will responsible for local tag(from tag). Then remote tag(To-Tag) will be generated by user agent server(UAS).



Note: the same answer Amit also mentioned clearly with RFC.



Thanks,

Pradeep




> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:13:59 +0530
> From: arun.tagare5 at gmail.com
> To: Amit2.Singh at aricent.com
> CC: sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sip-implementors] : No To-Tag in INVITE why?
>
> Hi Amit,
>
> Thank you for your Response
> Thanks for explaining the dot i was having with respect to the To-Tag in
> the INVITE request.
>
> Thank you,
> With Regards
> Arun A. Tagare
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Amit Kumar Singh <Amit2.Singh at aricent.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Section 19.3 of RFC 3261 states the following:
> >
> > " The tag parameter is used in the To and From header fields of SIP
> > messages. It serves as a general mechanism to identify a dialog, which is
> > the combination of the Call-ID along with two tags, one from each
> > participant in the dialog. When a UA sends a request outside of a dialog,
> > it contains a From tag only, providing "half" of the dialog ID. The dialog
> > is completed from the response(s), each of which contributes the second
> > half in the To header field. The forking of SIP requests means that
> > multiple dialogs can be established from a single request. This also
> > explains the need for the two-sided dialog identifier; without a
> > contribution from the recipients, the originator could not disambiguate the
> > multiple dialogs established from a single request."
> >
> > As the RFC clearly states that the dialog is completed from the responses
> > thus it should be the UAS to generate the To Tag in the response not the
> > UAC. In the case of Forking of single SIP request, to avoid the ambiguity
> > in multiple dialogs contribution from the recipients (UAS), in our case To
> > Tag, is necessary.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Amit Kumar Singh
> > amit2.singh at aricent.com
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sip-implementors-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu [mailto:
> > sip-implementors-bounces at lists.cs.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of Arun Tagare
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:45 AM
> > To: sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > Subject: [Sip-implementors] : No To-Tag in INVITE why?
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Can any one explain me
> > Why there is no To-Tag in the INVITE Request?
> >
> > And what happens if i add To-Tag in the INVITE Request?
> >
> > --
> >
> > With Regards
> >
> > Arun A. Tagare
> > +91 9449 029729
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sip-implementors mailing list
> > Sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/sip-implementors
> > "DISCLAIMER: This message is proprietary to Aricent and is intended solely
> > for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. It may contain
> > privileged or confidential information and should not be circulated or used
> > for any purpose other than for what it is intended. If you have received
> > this message in error, please notify the originator immediately. If you are
> > not the intended recipient, you are notified that you are strictly
> > prohibited from using, copying, altering, or disclosing the contents of
> > this message. Aricent accepts no responsibility for loss or damage arising
> > from the use of the information transmitted by this email including damage
> > from virus."
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sip-implementors mailing list
> > Sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
> > https://lists.cs.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/sip-implementors
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> With Regards
>
> Arun A. Tagare
> +91 9449 029729
> _______________________________________________
> Sip-implementors mailing list
> Sip-implementors at lists.cs.columbia.edu
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